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Today’s podcast is part of an AI series reviewing spiritual books that align closely with Tom Campbell’s more science-based theory of everything, My Big TOE (MBT). Todays review is Campbells book My Big Toe itself.
In this interview, we reflect on the key concepts of Thomas Campbell’s My Big TOE, exploring how his theory integrates science, philosophy, and personal experience to offer a comprehensive model of reality. We revisit Campbell’s shift from a physicist to a consciousness explorer, particularly after his exposure to transcendental meditation (TM), which radically challenged his materialistic worldview. Through his own out-of-body experiences and collaboration with pioneers in consciousness research, Campbell introduces the idea of non-physical matter reality (NPMR)—a deeper dimension where consciousness operates independently of the physical body and where the laws of physics we know don’t necessarily apply.
We discuss the “belief trap” that Campbell warns about, where clinging too tightly to fixed beliefs limits our ability to perceive the broader nature of reality. They emphasise his call for questioning assumptions and remaining open to new experiences. A central takeaway from the book is Campbell’s assertion that consciousness is the fundamental force of reality. Rather than our brains creating consciousness, he argues that consciousness creates and shapes the physical world, a concept that ties into his theory of “probable realities”—where all potential outcomes coexist as probabilities and our intentions and choices influence which reality we experience.
The interview also revisits Campbell’s “fundamental process,” the cyclical flow of growth, exploration, feedback, and evolution that shapes all of existence, with consciousness at its core. We reflect on Campbell’s view of love as the driving force behind this process—more than just an emotional experience, love is the fundamental energy that propels creation and growth.
In terms of practical application, the discussion focuses on Campbell’s advice for integrating his ideas into everyday life. The hosts expand on the importance of self-awareness, meditation, and mindfulness, which Campbell encourages as tools to quiet the mind, increase awareness of our thoughts, emotions, and motivations, and make more conscious, intentional choices. We explore how, through these practices, individuals can reduce mental and emotional clutter (entropy) and align more closely with their deeper purpose. Campbell’s emphasis on personal responsibility is also revisited, especially in how we respond to challenges. While circumstances may be beyond our control, he stresses that we always have the power to choose how we react.
Ultimately, the interview reinforces Campbell’s belief that My Big TOE is not just an intellectual exploration but a call to action. By aligning our intentions with the fundamental process of consciousness, lowering entropy, and embracing our purpose, we can begin to transform our lives and contribute meaningfully to the world around us.
At the end of this episode, I’ve included a song I recently released under the Stephen Griffin Collective titled From Fear to Love. This song carries a message that resonates deeply with the themes of My Big TOE. I hope you enjoy it, and if you’d like to explore more music inspired by MBT, you can find additional tracks on platforms like Spotify, iTunes, and YouTube. Thanks for listening, and I hope the music resonates with you as much as the ideas behind it.
Written by Stephen Griffin and ChatGPT


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